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  1. #1
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    What brand of mem should I buy for my new MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU board? (my Abit KT7A-RAID is dead) :snip:

    It has to be a 512MB stick, DDR2700. I have the option of getting Apacher, Kingston and Twinmos.... No oc'ing
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    CPU: Thunderbird 1.2Ghz (266FSB)
    MOBO: Abit KT7A-RAID
    HSF: Taisol CGK742092 - Artic Silver Compound
    BIOS: 7N - Highpoint BIOS v2.31
    OS: Windows XP Pro
    MEMORY: 512MB Apacher 133 Cas2
    VIDEO: ASUS V8200 Geforce3 64MB Pure
    DRIVER: Detonator 23.12
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 120GB
    SOUND: Creative SB Live! 1024
    SPEAKERS: FourPointSurround FPS2000 Digital
    CDROM: Asus 40x (IDE1 Master)
    DVD: Asus E616 (IDE1 Slave)
    CDRW: Plextor 12/10/32A (IDE2 Master)
    MOUSE: Logitech Mouseman Optical
    KEYBOARD: Keytronic KT1000 black
    INET: 1024/256kbit ADSL
    NIC: Realtek RTL8139(A)
    CASE: Chieftec DA-01SLD Full Tower
    PSU: Enermax 431W
    COOLING: Three 80mm Papst Industrial fans
    MONITOR: Sony CPD E400P 19"
    PRINTER: HP Deskjet 930C USB
    SOFTWARE: DirectX 8 - Highpoint driver v2.31
    3DMark 2001SE: 6469
    CPU TEMP: Idle: 40C - Full load: 47C
    SYSTEM TEMP: Idle: 24C - Full load: 30C

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    out of the three, i would go apacer

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    Here comes the one million dollar question: Why? :D
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    CPU: Thunderbird 1.2Ghz (266FSB)
    MOBO: Abit KT7A-RAID
    HSF: Taisol CGK742092 - Artic Silver Compound
    BIOS: 7N - Highpoint BIOS v2.31
    OS: Windows XP Pro
    MEMORY: 512MB Apacher 133 Cas2
    VIDEO: ASUS V8200 Geforce3 64MB Pure
    DRIVER: Detonator 23.12
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 120GB
    SOUND: Creative SB Live! 1024
    SPEAKERS: FourPointSurround FPS2000 Digital
    CDROM: Asus 40x (IDE1 Master)
    DVD: Asus E616 (IDE1 Slave)
    CDRW: Plextor 12/10/32A (IDE2 Master)
    MOUSE: Logitech Mouseman Optical
    KEYBOARD: Keytronic KT1000 black
    INET: 1024/256kbit ADSL
    NIC: Realtek RTL8139(A)
    CASE: Chieftec DA-01SLD Full Tower
    PSU: Enermax 431W
    COOLING: Three 80mm Papst Industrial fans
    MONITOR: Sony CPD E400P 19"
    PRINTER: HP Deskjet 930C USB
    SOFTWARE: DirectX 8 - Highpoint driver v2.31
    3DMark 2001SE: 6469
    CPU TEMP: Idle: 40C - Full load: 47C
    SYSTEM TEMP: Idle: 24C - Full load: 30C

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    in my opinion, the other two are closer to generic than apacer, and also Albinus has had luck with apacer

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    Yes Indeed :)

    Out of the (approximately) 500 sticks of Apacer RAM I have dealt with over the years, only one has failed. Probably because it was rated at PC-66 and I was pushing it at 112MHz for over a year :D

    Their RAM also tends to be conservatively rated, for instance my backup machine has a 256MB CAS-3 PC-133 stick in that runs reliably at 144MHz CAS-2; can't argue with that :thumb:

    I will stick to supporting Apacer instead of bagging other brands - don't get me started
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    I'm like Apacher too, as you can see in my sig :) But! I've heard that Apacher uses Nanyo chips or something like that and they have problems running on certain boards...
    <marquee direction=up height = 100 width = "100%" scrolldelay=100 scrollamount=1>

    CPU: Thunderbird 1.2Ghz (266FSB)
    MOBO: Abit KT7A-RAID
    HSF: Taisol CGK742092 - Artic Silver Compound
    BIOS: 7N - Highpoint BIOS v2.31
    OS: Windows XP Pro
    MEMORY: 512MB Apacher 133 Cas2
    VIDEO: ASUS V8200 Geforce3 64MB Pure
    DRIVER: Detonator 23.12
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Special Edition 120GB
    SOUND: Creative SB Live! 1024
    SPEAKERS: FourPointSurround FPS2000 Digital
    CDROM: Asus 40x (IDE1 Master)
    DVD: Asus E616 (IDE1 Slave)
    CDRW: Plextor 12/10/32A (IDE2 Master)
    MOUSE: Logitech Mouseman Optical
    KEYBOARD: Keytronic KT1000 black
    INET: 1024/256kbit ADSL
    NIC: Realtek RTL8139(A)
    CASE: Chieftec DA-01SLD Full Tower
    PSU: Enermax 431W
    COOLING: Three 80mm Papst Industrial fans
    MONITOR: Sony CPD E400P 19"
    PRINTER: HP Deskjet 930C USB
    SOFTWARE: DirectX 8 - Highpoint driver v2.31
    3DMark 2001SE: 6469
    CPU TEMP: Idle: 40C - Full load: 47C
    SYSTEM TEMP: Idle: 24C - Full load: 30C

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    Only certain Apacer modules have Nanya chips, but all the ones I have used with Nanya chips have been superb :)

    I've seen LG, Nanya, Hyundai, Samsung, Infineon, Kingmax and even Apacer's own chips on their memory modules :)
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    I know you hate 'em Albinus, but Kingmax make rock-solid DDR sticks.
    Their SD PC150 sticks were also pretty awesome.

    The best thing to do is to physically inspect the chips on the ram before purchasing (if possible). Make sure they are indeed rated at xns and are indeed manufactured by the brand that is advertising them.

    Most of my bad experiances with Apacer ram were due to ****ty quality modules on the stick. That, and the cas2 stuff I paid good money for came as cas3 and dealing with them (apacer) to get it replaced was the biggest ***** fight ever.

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    I've mainly use Kingmax in all the PC's that I've assemble and have only 1 DOA though lately on a couple of EPoX 8K3A/8K3A+ setups that I've done I've used Corsair XMS3000 and they really are the best when overclocking I've found. :smokin:
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    Well, I took some screenshots of two DDR memory modules.....

    First of all, an Apacer PC-2100 DDR Module:






    And a Kingmax PC-2400 DDR Module:




    No comments here, both sticks work fine, but the Apacer stick is rated lower and runs at more aggressive timings - makes me very :confused:
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