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    Default Does this look reasonable?

    Case/PSU:
    Galaxy III Case and 450 Watt PSU
    Price: 29.84

    Motherboard:
    Asus P5N-T Deluxe Nvidia 780i SLI DDR2 ATX Intel Motherboard - Socket LGA775
    Price: 148.29

    Processor:
    Intel Q6600 (2.4 GHz) (8MB Cache)
    Price: 160.99

    RAM:
    4GB DDR2 RAM, 1066MHz FSB (OCZ)
    Price: 45.40

    Hard Drive:
    Hypertec 320GB SATA (7200RPM)
    Price: 49.05

    Graphics card:
    Item: XFX GeForce 8800GTX (768MB)
    Price: 129.99

    Optical Drive:
    Samsung TS-H493B SATA DVD-ROM/CD-RW Drive - Black (OEM) --(I don't care about this much)
    Price: 9.19

    CPU Heatsink:
    Geminii S Copper base 5 Heatpipe
    Price: 32.99

    Item: Arctic Cooling MX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound
    Price: 3.91


    Operating system:
    Genuine Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, with Service Pack 3
    Price: 69.99

    Total Price: 679.65($997.59)

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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    Yes it does, but there are some wierd choices in your build. Why would u settle for a generic 450W PSU? Try to get a brand name one with at least 600W for the graphics card.

    The hard drive seems a little too small dont u think, y not up it to a 500GB one? i dint think its that much more expensive.

    The Q6600 might show some age when your playing games when the CPU clock speed is the limiting factor. Maybe you could look for a similarly priced CPU with a higher clock speed, ofcourse you can always overclock it if necesary.

    Graphics card seems old, see if u can get an equivalent to an 8800GTX, maybe a 9800GTX+ or w/e the 9800GTX+ has been named too [GT250 something lyk that].

    Other than that it seems ok.
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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    Yes it does, but there are some wierd choices in your build. Why would u settle for a generic 450W PSU? Try to get a brand name one with at least 600W for the graphics card.

    The hard drive seems a little too small dont u think, y not up it to a 500GB one? i dint think its that much more expensive.

    The Q6600 might show some age when your playing games when the CPU clock speed is the limiting factor. Maybe you could look for a similarly priced CPU with a higher clock speed, ofcourse you can always overclock it if necesary.

    Graphics card seems old, see if u can get an equivalent to an 8800GTX, maybe a 9800GTX+ or w/e the 9800GTX+ has been named too [GT250 something lyk that].

    Other than that it seems ok.
    It comes with the case... I couldn't find one without it. I'll go with getting another one and sell the 450W one on E-bay.

    For the card, does the 9800GTX+ come with 768MB or more of VRAM? I need at least that much to run GTA IV on high graphics.

    As for the CPU, the Q6600 has been names as a good overclocker, so thats one attraction to it. At the moment I'm using a Q8200 and although I do like it, the motherboard it comes with has a completely locked BIOS. You can only change things for RAM and a few things for Graphics cards, can't even overvolt fans. I've heard the Q8200 isn't a great overclocker, but I'm fairly sure the Q6600 is.

    I'd prefer an AMD chip but the thing is, the only ones I can think of are the Phenom and Phenom II, but those are more expensive.

    Edit: I've found a Phenom II X4 Black Edition at 3GHz for 186. I think I'm going to go for that (I've always wanted one xD). Anyone know how it overclocks? I'm looking at something now that says its been OC'd to 5GHz, but I'm not sure with what cooling. Probably Nitrogen.
    Last edited by Chrisname; 03-26-2009 at 03:11 AM.

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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    What about this?
    If, at age 14, it was actually possible to raise 864, this would be a decent system I think:

    Power Supply:
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    • Item: Thermaltake Kandalf LCS Black Case, No PSU, Water Cooling
    • Price: 185.73
    • From: Eclipse Computers
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    Motherboard:

    • Item: Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DS5, Socket AM3
    • Price: 117.97
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    GA MA790FXT-UD4P Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD4P Motherboard Phenom II X4 Socket AM3 AMD 790X ATX RAID Gigabit Ethernet LAN
    CPU:
    • Item: AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 940
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    RAM:
    • Item: OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Reaper Memory HPC Edition Dual
    • Price: 50.18
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    Graphics Card:
    • Item: nVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 1024MB
    • Price: 101.20
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    OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Reaper Memory HPC Edition Dual Channel - Ebuyer

    Hard Drive:
    • Item: Hypertec PRIMARY 320GB 3.5'' REMOVABLE SATA 2 7200
    • Price: 49.05
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    ATC-B320SA2 Hypertec PRIMARY 320GB 3.5'' REMOVABLE SATA 2 7200
    Optical Drive
    • Item: Samsung TS-H493B SATA DVD-ROM/CD-RW Drive - Black (OEM)
    • Price: 9.19
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    Samsung TS-H493B SATA DVD-ROM/CD-RW Drive - Black (OEM)

    CPU Heatsink:
    • Item: Geminii S Copper base 5 Heatpipe
    • Price: 32.99
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    CPU Thermal Paste:
    • Item: Arctic Cooling MX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound
    • Price: 3.91
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    Operating system:
    • Item: Genuine Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, with Service Pack 3
    • Price: 69.99
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    • Total Cost -OS: 793.81

    • Total Cost +OS: 863.80

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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    I dont think 512MB+ RAM is necessary to run GTA4 on max settings.

    If you dont need a quad core cpu, they why get one? Remember a very fast dual core is a better choice over a slow Q6600. And most dual cores can OC much better on air than Quads.

    [U wouldnt wana be playing with liquid nitrogen at age 14 do you!!?]

    Your list of parts does has some wierd choices too haha. Y 8800GT???!!! so old.
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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    I dont think 512MB+ RAM is necessary to run GTA4 on max settings.

    If you dont need a quad core cpu, they why get one? Remember a very fast dual core is a better choice over a slow Q6600. And most dual cores can OC much better on air than Quads.

    [U wouldnt wana be playing with liquid nitrogen at age 14 do you!!?]

    Your list of parts does has some wierd choices too haha. Y 8800GT???!!! so old.
    One of my friends, who is 15, and his brother, who is, I think, 19, are builing a water cooling system. Tbh though, I've seen one on the internet for around 20, so its pointless as they've spent more than that anyway.

    At the moment my graphics card does need more RAM for GTA IV on high settings... I'm using 460MB at the moment with everything on the highest setting except textures, which is on medium, and draw distance, which is on 35/100.

    The reason I want an 8800GT is because, the way I've learnt to tell nVidia's good graphics cards, is the second number is the most important, as in 8800 is better than 9300 by alot. Then the letters on the end, GS being default, and GTX being overclocked, THEN the first number. The 9800 is basically a rebrand of the 8800 with a few minor differences... I couldn't tell you what those are off the top of my head, but basically for the sake of 80 its not worth getting a 9 series card (even though I have one now... I misread the box when we got it and thoguh it was a 9600 till we got home and I saw the 5. I was like ">:( Damn."). And there's no way I'm getting a GTX 280 for the sake of a higher framerate... if I was made of money, perhaps, but now... I think I'll forget it.

    One of my friends knows a guy called Danny who apparantly gets parts from the supplier of PC World at the rate they pay for them... he has a 500 computer for around 2-300, so that should be good.


    As for getting a quad core... why not? A dual core would probably suit, but the idea is to get as powerful a PC as I can at the lowest cost so I can give my dad a kick in the teeth =] We paid 700 for the PC I'm on now (it does have an amazing monitor though, LCD, 22", 16:10 ratio, and its glass)
    I could probably do with a tri-core, but I don't like odd numbers =]... the real reason though, that I want a quad core, is... I just do. There's no other reason except "Why not?". =]

    Don't think I'm going to go with any of these lists... I'm pretty fickle, I'll probably be at Intels throat trying to make them hurry up with Octo core processors. That'll be fun, when they come out... 8 instances of Crysis running synonymously at the same speed... I can't wait.
    Current system:
    - Intel Q8200 Processor (2.33GHz) (7x multi, roughly 340MHz FSB)
    - Intel DG45ID Motherboard (stupid locked BIOS >:( )
    - 6 GB DDR2 RAM (667MHz)
    - PNY GeForce 9500GT (750MHz Core clock, 1900MHz Shader clock, 500MHz Memory clock)
    -585GB SATA HDD (7200RPM)

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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    How do u know ur using 480+MB of VRAM for playing GTA 4??? ive never heard of a program to be able to do so.

    You do realize that a 9800GTX+ is WAY better than an 8800GT??? so why a 8800GT while there are so many other better choices??

    Yes its true thta nvidia uses that scheme such atht 9300 << 9800 but you cant just rely on part numbers alone!

    Look atthe new parts now...GTS250 = 9800GTX+, its got a 50 in it it must be crap.
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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    How do u know ur using 480+MB of VRAM for playing GTA 4??? ive never heard of a program to be able to do so.

    You do realize that a 9800GTX+ is WAY better than an 8800GT??? so why a 8800GT while there are so many other better choices??

    Yes its true thta nvidia uses that scheme such atht 9300 << 9800 but you cant just rely on part numbers alone!

    Look atthe new parts now...GTS250 = 9800GTX+, its got a 50 in it it must be crap.
    I know I'm using ~480MB VRAM for GTA IV because it says.

    Yes I know the 9800GTX is better, but I don't care. I'll get a GT and overclock it. Does the 9800GTX come with 768MB or more RAM?

    As for the GTS250, GTX280, etc, that obviously does not apply to all products... maybe they're using a new scheme? Maybe it is now the higher the number the better?
    Current system:
    - Intel Q8200 Processor (2.33GHz) (7x multi, roughly 340MHz FSB)
    - Intel DG45ID Motherboard (stupid locked BIOS >:( )
    - 6 GB DDR2 RAM (667MHz)
    - PNY GeForce 9500GT (750MHz Core clock, 1900MHz Shader clock, 500MHz Memory clock)
    -585GB SATA HDD (7200RPM)

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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    Here is a set of gaming graphics charts from Q3, 2008. Charts, benchmarks Gaming Graphics Charts Q3/2008, 3DMark06 v1.1.0 3DMark Score . Although it may not be 100% accurate it should give you a rough idea for compairison purposes. You see to be getting hung up on amount of Vram instead of clock speeds and performance. What program are you running that keeps track of Vram usage while gaming?
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    Default Re: Does this look reasonable?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieDawg View Post
    Here is a set of gaming graphics charts from Q3, 2008. Charts, benchmarks Gaming Graphics Charts Q3/2008, 3DMark06 v1.1.0 3DMark Score . Although it may not be 100% accurate it should give you a rough idea for compairison purposes. You see to be getting hung up on amount of Vram instead of clock speeds and performance. What program are you running that keeps track of Vram usage while gaming?
    I'm not, on GTA IV when you set your graphics settings it tells you how much Memory you're likely to be using... at the moment I can't go over 492MB/512MB (for obvious reasons)... so I want more VRAM so I can =]
    I'll try to find one.

    The reason I'm more worried about the memory, at the moment, is that you can just overclock to get better performence... you can't like, overremember or something... so it stores more data in the memory (seeing as that would make absolutely no sense).

    Just out of the blue, does anyone know if sticking fridge/freezer elements inside the case to act as cooling is a bad idea?
    Last edited by Chrisname; 03-28-2009 at 06:47 AM.
    Current system:
    - Intel Q8200 Processor (2.33GHz) (7x multi, roughly 340MHz FSB)
    - Intel DG45ID Motherboard (stupid locked BIOS >:( )
    - 6 GB DDR2 RAM (667MHz)
    - PNY GeForce 9500GT (750MHz Core clock, 1900MHz Shader clock, 500MHz Memory clock)
    -585GB SATA HDD (7200RPM)

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