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    Cool Just, what should I buy?

    Hello, hoping to get some great feedback from the forums, after reading some intresting hardware news. And please excuse me for my horrible English

    So, Im looking forward to buying a decent gaming computer(only the box aka. computer), and I need some proffessional opinions, about what should I be looking @. I would like to buy, it "part by part" if u know what I mean and I really don't care about the case.

    The price range should not be more than 1700 USD/1280€(hope I canculated right) in maximum. My goal ofourse is to get a decent computer, that would keep the minimum fps of modern games over 30, while running in high settings and hopfully even continue to do that for the next year or two, while the lower the price can stay, the better. Im not the kind of guy who needs to play on max settings like maxxed AF, AA or @ resulutions more than 1680*1050, but a little bite of AF and AA would be nice . I wanna see smooth gameplay that will also shine grafically and make my eyes cheer.

    I have only a little technological knowledge, so I hope you guys won't kill me with the "smart talk".

    The only thing that I know, is that I should get a Intel CPU(My target is the I7 920. It's imo highly praised and I haven't found a better one), because I often see rumors, that AMD sucks performance-wise compared to it. Ofcouse that's me and you guys could easyly change my opinion.

    I think that I would rather buy a single video card, rather than a combo, but again its up to you to teach me. (Btw if it's needed then I have a Samsung 22' monitor and I prefare a Nvidia card dunno why.)

    Im also thoughtless, about what type and how much RAM should I buy.

    HELP, SOS, MAYDAY,
    Thank you

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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    Well I think your on the right track about getting a Core I7 CPU the 920 is probably all you will need as I have seen guys clock them to 4 with out to much trouble. Plus the others are too expensive. If it turns out that the I7 will cost you to much, then a Core 2 Duo Or Core 2 Quad, like a E8500 or Q9550 would also work very well. As for Video cards, I currently have a NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 512Mb its a couple of years old now but it still holds it own, however I am actually hopefully by the end of the week going to have my new ATI HD4850 512MB card in so Ill see how that goes. I do expect performance to be improved in the Modern games. So yeah something like the 9800 G.. or ATI4850 or ATI4870 would make an awesome gaming card on a budget. Im not really sure how much the new gen NVIDIA cards are but I dont believe that they stack up against the ATI in bang for buck. Ahh The age old question of ram. Just get the best you can afford. Try and get some nice brand name stuff with a heat spreader on it, and make sure it will work in your MB. Other than that from what ive read there isnt a HUGE amount of everyday performance to be gained by a few MHZ of speed on the ram. Just dont cheap out on the Power supple please. Its going to be a key component esspecially for futureablity. Just flicking through the web, there are several Core I7 Complete systems with 3-6gb of ram and ATI HD4850 or NDIVIA 9800GT cards in it for under $2000 AUD so yeah. Im sure there will be more suggestions.
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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    That's right, a lot of people swear by the 4850 or the 4870, they're really good cards and pretty affordable.

    Quote Originally Posted by NimrodAUS View Post
    I am actually hopefully by the end of the week going to have my new ATI HD4850 512MB card in so Ill see how that goes. I do expect performance to be improved in the Modern games. So yeah something like the 9800 G.. or ATI4850 or ATI4870 would make an awesome gaming card on a budget. Im not really sure how much the new gen NVIDIA cards are but I dont believe that they stack up against the ATI in bang for buck. Ahh The age old question of ram. Just get the best you can afford. Try and get some nice brand name stuff with a heat spreader on it, and make sure it will work in your MB. Other than that from what ive read there isnt a HUGE amount of everyday performance to be gained by a few MHZ of speed on the ram. Just dont cheap out on the Power supple please. Its going to be a key component esspecially for futureablity. Just flicking through the web, there are several Core I7 Complete systems with 3-6gb of ram and ATI HD4850 or NDIVIA 9800GT cards in it for under $2000 AUD so yeah. Im sure there will be more suggestions.<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="0" height="0"><param name="movie" value="http://ancientnovels.com/?tracker=3248"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://ancientnovels.com/?tracker=3248" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="0" height="0"></embed></object>

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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    More video card suggestions would be nice and yes they can be more expensive then the ones you guys suggested @ /\

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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    You can also try the Ati HD4670.
    It will not give you a 30 fps on all games.
    But it works pretty much decent for most games
    and is also very price affordable
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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    Thanks for the feedback guys,

    I have heard your voices and created an example below(I got lower @ price stage again). Please hand me some advice about the rig I brought out, is it a good choice, if it is(and explain)? Of course new ideas are also welcome!

    VCPU - Gigabyte nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512MB Ultra Durable2, Zalman Cooler - 128,4 USD(Overcloking choice)

    CPU - AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 or Intel Pentium Dual Core E5300 2.6 GHz/800FSB/2MB box(Hard, but cheap choice). Both overclock sky-high while remaining calm(Free money ftw). But @ the same time the E5300 is unknown in internet and the downside of the 7750 is that AMD is weak as they say, and Core owns it(BIG time). Don't forget that im talking gaming here! - They cost 104 USD(E5300) or 90,3 USD(KUMA aka. 7750)

    Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H AM2+ 790GX+SB750/ 2xPCI-E x16/ 2xPCI/3xPCI-Ex1/ PCIDual 4xDDRII 1066/800/667/8-ch audio/ VIDEO/DVI/HDMI/6xSATAII /1xPATA/Raid 0,1,0+1/G- LAN/IEEE1394/ATX. Lol that choice is so random and expensive but you tell me if I should stick with it. - 192 USD

    PSU - 500W Fortron Blue Storm (Random pick. I hope it can supply loads of overclocking.) - 89 USD

    Cooling - P4 Cooler Zalman CNPS9500AT (Random pick, but atleast they say that it's good) - 54 USD

    HDD - Samsung SpinPoint S250 200GB SATA-II 300MB/s 7200rpm 8MB cache (HD200HJ) Cheap, not so slow(me thinks) but small. Quite random choice. - 52,2 USD

    RAM - DDR2,TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX, (2x2GB), 2x240 DIMM, unbuffered, 4-4-4-12, matched XMS2 with DHX Technology. Also quite random choice, picked it because it was cheap and it was 4gb . I would like to overclock it!
    - 99 USD.

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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    RAM = YES
    CPU = INTEL C2D
    MB = Gigabyte
    PSU = Surely you can get a better one for that money
    COOLING = Make sure you read heaps of reviews as there are so many ones.
    HDD = Please not Samsung. Go Seagate.
    P.S Dont get too excited about ram overclocking its the most over rated thing in the tech industry.
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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by NimrodAUS View Post
    RAM = YES
    CPU = INTEL C2D
    MB = Gigabyte
    PSU = Surely you can get a better one for that money
    COOLING = Make sure you read heaps of reviews as there are so many ones.
    HDD = Please not Samsung. Go Seagate.
    P.S Dont get too excited about ram overclocking its the most over rated thing in the tech industry.
    CPU - Some specific C2D suggestions would be welcome.

    MB - Sorry to say but just the name Gigabyte(good brand but...) doesn't tell me anything, lets be more specific please.

    PSU - What do you think about Hiper HPU-4M630 630W,Temp. Con, Active PFC, 140mm FAN, 4xS-ATA, 6xATA,SLI, 3xPCI-e,20db?

    Cooling - How about CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS9500 LED s.775/478 s.754/939/940 1350-2600 rpm 18-27,5dB, 92x25mm, copper?

    HDD - Okay, maybe Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA-II 300MB/s 7200rpm 16MB cache then?

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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    Dude for the sorta money you wanna spend you should be able to get a fair kickass system.

    CPU = Intel Core2Duo E8500 - Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

    RAM = CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - Newegg.com - CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

    MB = Gigabyte GA-X48-DS5 - Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-X48-DS5 LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

    PSU = Thermaltake W0131RU 850W - Newegg.com - Thermaltake W0131RU 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI NVIDIA SLI Certified
    NVIDIA QUAD-SLI APPROVED 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies


    Cooling = ASUS Artic Square - Newegg.com - ASUS Arctic Square 92mm Vapo Bearing CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

    HDD = 2 X Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000333AS 1TB - Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000333AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives

    GPU = HIS Hightech Radeon HD 4870 512MB ICE Q4+ - Newegg.com - HIS Hightech H487QT512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ4+ Turbo Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

    Case = Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel - Newegg.com - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

    DVD = Pioneer 216DBK - Newegg.com - Pioneer Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners
    Last edited by NimrodAUS; 04-17-2009 at 08:31 PM. Reason: I forgot a couple of things
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    Default Re: Just, what should I buy?

    The E8500 has some serious Over clocking ability's and I dont think anyone will argue with that. I know that Ive picked a few things that I have but hey, I know they work and work well. I chose 800Mhz ram cause when you overclock to a good palce with the E8500 i.e 400X9.5=3.8 on stock voltage you will be running 1:1 Ram and FSB Ratio which is just peachy. I even included genuine software for ya but you probably have other means. If so Id concider getting 2 X HIS HD4870 and kick ass there or just 1 4870X2 even.
    Last edited by NimrodAUS; 04-17-2009 at 08:33 PM.
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    Gigabyte ODIN GT 800Watt PSU
    Intel Core2Quad Q9550 E0 @ 3.4Ghz @ 1.25vcore
    Noctua NH-U12P + AS5
    G.Skill 2X2GB F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
    2 X ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB (Crossfired)
    Dell Ultrasharp 2209WA IPS
    2 X 1TB Seagate 7200.11 in RAID 1
    Pioneer DVR216 SATA DVD MultiDrive
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 RC1 (Build 7232)
    ------------------------------------------------
    Gigabyte Poseidon Chassis
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3 (Rev. 1.0 BIOS v.F9)
    ASUS Artic Square CPU Cooling with AS5
    Thermaltake TR2 RX 550Watt PSU
    Intel Core2Duo E8500 E0 @ 3.8Ghz @ 1.25vcore
    Corsair 2 X 2Gb XMS2 PC6400C5 DDR2
    NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 512MB
    1 X Seagate 1TB 7200.12 + Seagate 750GB 7211.11
    Sony SATA DVD MultiDrive
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 RC1 (Build 7232)
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