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    Hey all,

    First post here, been checking the site out for about a week, and I am very thankful I found it. I'm trying to put together my first real system, and I just thought I'd get some reviews from all of you.

    I do 3D computer architectural renderings/animations for a company right now, and I'm thinking of going freelance. So I desire a machine to be affordable, upgradeable, and fast. I'm not going dual, for now, maybe in the future if everything works out good.

    Enough jabber, here's what I have planned:

    Antec Plus660 case
    Epox 4G4A+ i845G Motherboard
    Intel P4 2.4GHz 533MHz Socket 478
    (2) Kingston 512MB DDR333 PC2700
    (2) WD 80GB ATA100 7200rpm
    Leadtek GeForce4 Ti4600 AGP 128MB
    CreativeLabs Audigy 2 Platinum
    Viewsonic PF-790 19" 1600x1200
    Plextor Plexwriter 48x24x48 CD-RW
    Windows XP Pro
    Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical

    I got all this priced and ready to ship for under 2K. Alot of the choices came from reviews here at TweakTown, so hopefully this should be a good machine.

    The price of the all the software I need is another story, I think I'm around 6K for all that!
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    Ok, my two cents...I think the system is great...and will prolly take care of your need for now. Though one thing i must ask...are those Western Digital the Special Edition with the 8mb cache?...if not then you should look into it...those babies are hot and not much more than the normal WD 7200 2mb cache drives.

    Your Ti4600 can be found for 235 at newegg.com from chaintech (which i have in my rig). Chaintech's Retail (no games pack) comes with ramsinks and a cool "gold" fan. I have overclocked it at a decent clock which is hard since the 4600's are almost at its limits. You prolly don't care about o/c since you are prolly looking for a very stable system.

    For Video and rendering and other similar things like that you will prolly want a Video Card that meant for that. I think the 4600 will get the job done...but i have seen the Quadro from nVidia used in rigs of that intent. They are a bit on the expensive side the normal quadro cost around 230 and comes with 64mb of DDR; but, like always there is EBaY...which is where my buddy got his from. In fact it was a Quadro2. It won't give you the highest benchmarks for gaming but, thats not the main purpose of your rig.

    Anyhow those are my two cents and take a look at newegg.com...they have great prices as well as great service.
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    Well since you are doing alot of rendering and such, RDRAM you may want to look into a bit...
    New Sig soon, old one was way outdated.

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    yeah if you are going to go the intel route I would go ahead and get a mobo that supports rdram and get rdram. It might cost a little more, but i think the preformance gain is pretty substantial! Otherwise....I would save some $ and go the amd route! but that is just me!

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    You can prolly pass the intel and go Dual AMD's...
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    Hehe dual AMD's :flames:
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    It sounds to me like you're planning to build an all-purpose rig with your choice of sound and video. IMHO, this is a bad idea for a machine that you are going to make a living with. You want such a machine to rock stable and dependable. You don't want to have games or the gazillion drivers and .dlls that an Audigy card will load on such a machine. You also don't want to use it for a lot of personal computing chores- downloading mp3s, porn, signing up for offers on the net, etc. and exposing it to all of the possible bad stuff floating around. I agree that a gaming video card is not the best choice either. A gaming card will accept small rendering errors in its quest for speed. This is ok for games but not for professional renderings. I would also opt for simple, onboard sound as well.

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    Hahah assuming everyone downloads porn here are we hehe ;)

    Also Epox will be releasing the new boards with the 845PE chipset very soon which support DDR333 officially and will also support Hyperthreading CPUs in the future.

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    Thanks for the reply guys!

    Where to start? Oh hell, I'll just start typing...

    As for the AMD's, I've read too many reports of the CPU blowing if things get hairy. 3DS Max is a very unstable program and I don't want to take any chances with that. This machine will probably be running at 100% useage 75% of every day, non-stop. Renderings are not friendly to power bills. :D

    The reason I'm not going dual, for now, is $$$. However, with a new plug-in for Max you can have up to 20 processors from network machines working on a single image!!! So more than likely I'll be buying a dual machine to work with, at a later date. And just stick with this single for now.

    bigjackusa - you make a great point with the sound board, I know the 4G4A+ has onboard sound, so maybe I'll just stick with that for now. I'll make a game/sound machine later.

    buckchoi - thanks for the tip on the 845PE, I'll have to look into that more.

    As for the video card, my personal experience while working in the field, it's cool to have a nice card. We have Wildcat 6110's in our dual 2.4 Xeons at work, but I don't got the '$bling$ $bling$' casino clients that my work does! :D We spent $10K for each of our machine here. The cards are a waste, I feel. They're good for doing virtual walk-thru, and real time animation, but we don't do that. :snip:

    I won't be doing that freelance, at least not now, so I don't feel I need a card like that. It won't help actual rendering time, that's all CPU, MB, and RAM. Which makes saidin's point good about the RDRAM.

    Also FLaco's mention of the 8Mb cache HD sounds good, and would help a bit, loading maps, and saving frames, etc.

    Thanks you guys! Now I gotta go re-think everything! :D

    [edit] I know this is long sorry. But I just wanted to add that I'm finding all this stuff from www.googlegear.com, and they seem to be the cheapest, on most items. Anyone have experience with them? Thanks!
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    Googlegear is ok, but I like Newegg and TCWO better. Both have good prices, good service, and reasonable shipping. TCWO doesn't have a big selection but what they have is often at very good prices.

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