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    Ok, Iím a little confused and could use some advice from the sages of this board.

    As many of you know, my Intel system up and died on meÖ Iíve narrowed it down to either the power supply or a bum motherboard (wonít even boot with a reformat, just gives me a pop like static electricity and then reboots). Either way I am going to need a new system.

    So this is my What Should I Buy thread.

    Iíve been reading about the new Granite Bay motherboards that you are all touting and have a couple of questions.

    When you say it supports Dual Channel DDR-266 memoryÖ. Does that mean that it wonít use anything BEYOND 266? Like DDR-333 memory?

    So I should save my pennies and opt for the 266 chips instead of 333, and where does the DDR-400 fit in?

    Iím assuming the DDR-PC2100 is ok , so whatís the advantage of DDR-PC2700 ?

    (heh, basic questions I know, but Iím still running SDRAM, but I definitely understand RDRAM is dead!)

    I have an ATI Radeon VE DDR64 video card that I have never been able to fully use. (See the via forums for history of Apollo 133 chipset issue). While I know the card was quality video ages ago, do I keep that card or buy new?

    I know the ATI 9700 is THE rage, at $300-400 US it seems a bit much. How much less do I get with a ATI9000 or ATI8500? Or do I go G-Force?

    I do some Photoshop, some video capture some digital photography and some gaming.

    Whatís the advantage of Serial ATA over IDE Hard Drives?

    It appears that both the ASUS and Gigabyte boards have good built in sound.. I currently have a SB Live and love the sound I getÖ will the onboard sound be as good?

    The ASUS (deluxe) has built in firewire, the Gigabyte doesnítÖ. I have a PCI firewire, will that do well enough?

    Finally.. the case. I simply LOVE having a slide out motherboard tray. The only cases I have found with this are the Lian-Li cases, are there others?

    Will probably get a P4 2.4 (although Iím told the 2.8 will be the same price after 1/1/03)

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    Ok I'll take a stab at this.

    Granite Bay only needs PC2100 in two channels to have sufficient bandwidth to operate a P4 without any bottleneck effect but like most other boards that only officially support PC2100, PC2700 should run just fine but whether ya'll get any benefit from doin' so is a question that I can't answer just yet.

    The GF4 Ti4200 should fit the bill nicely in the best price/performance category as it's much faster than the R8500 or R9000 Pro but costs much less than the top end alternatives (overclocks very well also).

    Until Serial ATA II comes along there is no point in Serial ATA due to the PCI bus bottleneck it must share and the price of drives to suit (ok if ya later require more hard drive capacity though).

    Ya PCI firewire card should be fine and save $'s as well.

    Well there are quite a few cases that come with mobo trays but finding one that will be up to your tastes and budget will require a little searching.

    I hope this helps answer those questions somewhat. ;)
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    Thanks Wiggo,

    Your post definately helped clear up a few things.

    I take it then that DDR-333 ='s PC2700 and DDR-40 ='s PC3200 ?

    The GF4 Ti4200 looks like a resonable board and should meet my needs at almost half the cost of the R9700.

    I've read here that Corsair memory is very good, what do you guys think of Kingston? It runs about $30 less on a 256 meg DDR-PC2100 chip. I've run Kingston a lot and never had problems with it but I'm by no means an expert.


    On to another question.....

    I gather with the Granite Bay dual channel ability that the memory runs faster than a standard motherboard without it? And is it faster than an older board running DDR-400? or is it just better utilized ....

    Sorry to ask so many questions but all these numbers get a little confusing if I don't set them streight in my head.

    Any input is appreciated!!

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    Yes the memory equation is right. :thumb:

    That was behind my purchase for the Leadtek GF4 Ti4200 as well but I did spend a bit extra for the 128MB My VIVO model as it will have to do me for a few years plus when I get the time I wish to dabble with some of the VIVO properties (oh it's runnin' as fast as a basic Ti4400 btw). :devil win

    Corsair is very good but I have never used Kingston. Apacer and Crucial are also very good brands plus with the first Granite Bay boards only PC2100 is all that is needed but do get CAS 2 as the performance will be better then CAS 2.5 sticks. Yes the dual memory channels allow twice as much memory to be addressed at the same time and this is why higher speed memory isn't needed (it would be nicer for some of us if Intel would do the job right first though) but ya do need to pair sticks. :)

    Hey if ya don't ask ya won't know will ya?
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