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    Quote Originally Posted by Malabooboo
    I was a computer technician in the old days, and like you, would not stray from intel--I had a 286, then a 386, then a 486, then a few Pentiums and Pentium II's. We wouldn't think of touching Cyrix or AMD K6 processors--and yes, the old K6's were known to have real overheating problems.

    ahh thank God ...alteast somebody thinks Im sane after all..


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    Look I've been buildin' these things to for nearly 5yrs now and mainly correcting cooling problems with AMD's due to inadequate cooling (most a poor choice a case with bad air flow and still using HSF's that where fine on much older and slower CPU's) which is why I come back to bad homework (this same thing gave VIA a bad start as well because ppl would not learn some simple installation rules). What you should have posted is something more like this;
    <blockquote>Hi I'm looking to looking to buy a new system for about so much and I'll be using it mainly to do such and such with a bit of this thrown in plus I usually use these apps in my day to day business.
    Now I've never used AMD before so I don't know much about them at all so could everyone please give me there opinions on the pros and cons for both keeping in mind my required uses plus give me any suggestions for my full hardware setup and why.
    </blockquote> Now by starting the way you did will always guarantee the same responces which now you can hopefully see but if not then that's very sad and you can do as ya like and I'll take no further part here but DO give it some thought. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggo
    Look I've been buildin' these things to for nearly 5yrs now and mainly correcting cooling problems with AMD's due to inadequate cooling (most a poor choice a case with bad air flow and still using HSF's that where fine on much older and slower CPU's) which is why I come back to bad homework (this same thing gave VIA a bad start as well because ppl would not learn some simple installation rules). What you should have posted is something more like this;
    <blockquote>Hi I'm looking to looking to buy a new system for about so much and I'll be using it mainly to do such and such with a bit of this thrown in plus I usually use these apps in my day to day business.
    Now I've never used AMD before so I don't know much about them at all so could everyone please give me there opinions on the pros and cons for both keeping in mind my required uses plus give me any suggestions for my full hardware setup and why.
    </blockquote> Now by starting the way you did will always guarantee the same responces which now you can hopefully see but if not then that's very sad and you can do as ya like and I'll take no further part here but DO give it some thought. ;)
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    Well you are very right there wiggo.... my sincerest apologies... hmm it came out the wrong way didnt it... I guess I should have made it more clear in the first post itself that Ive never used an AMD system before, and also that look there are my doubts about the AMD could you please clarify..... mistake accepted: peace2:


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    I'm very glad that you now see the bigger picture. :thumb:

    Ok then lets start again, so how much are ya lookin' to spend on this (I take it that we're talkin' US $) and what's goin' to be ya main functions with it as this will decide in which direction to go. Both CPU's are entirely different in their contruction and where the P4 is a better audio/video editin' CPU the AMD is better at raw code and floating point operations. Also raw speed cannot be a consideration between the 2 as a P4 carries out 6 instructions per cycle and has 1 FPU while the Athlon does 9 instructions per cycle plus it has 3 FPU's. Another thing to consider is the type of case ya use as both are very hot runners and require decent airflow for trouble free operation. ;)

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    Well I'm planning to buy the MB, Ram, Processor, Case in one go and the rest in the next phase as I can use the peripherals from my current system till then.


    Frankly speaking Im blown by your stats, before I bought me PIII I did a similar analysis and the AMD were way way behind in Floating Point Calcs... now they lead?? wow!!!.... have not kept up with the AMD systems at all.. think I should take a deeper look..


    As for me budge at the first phase Im not planning to restrict myself to around $600... so what would your suggestions be... for the budget would you suggest the AMD based sys or an Intel based one.....


    ... I already mentioned that I have not at all kept abreast with AMD based systems.. so how is it that AMD based systems beat 533 FSB mhz intels ... how do they beat them with the 266 mhz FSBS... if they do will they enjoy the same advantage with hyperthreaded intels also..


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    Yes that would have been back when the Athlon and Durons were being strangled by SDRAM which caused the CPU many wait states while the memory caught up with demand which has since been fixed by the arrival of DDR SDRAM.
    Also if ya go the P4 way then forget about any references that you were plannin' on usin' against the PIII as it's a totally different stripe of cat and most ppl panicked when they first came out they were gettin' temps as high or higher than ppl with Athlons were gettin'.
    Now as ya are in the US ya'll get the best prices in the world but places like here where I just built this 2.4 P4 based on a GA-8PE667 Pro and GF4Ti4200 128MB VIVO with PC3200 RAM for the same money I'm about to build an almost exact duplicate of this but using an EP-8RDA+ and XP2600+ so where you have the luxury of better pricing some of us have to put up with a great price difference.
    Now there's also about to be a few spanners thrown in the equation with the Barton cored 512MB L2 cached Athlon about to be launched followed about 8 weeks later by the new Athlon64's so maybe if ya can hold of a couple of months longer to see what developes with these you may just wind up bein' better future proofed.
    Anyhow I've had my say so I'll let the ppl from your side of the world quote specs and prices to ya as they're in a better position to do knowin' your country better but at least you'er better informed now on what the situation is now plus what will soon be (also remember that AMD will be cuttin' CPU prices durin' these releases so at least a few weeks wait will pay in the end). :devil win

    Oh and as I asked before if we knew more about the uses that you require out of it an even better system can be worked out to suit you.

    do you require true V8 muscle or the top end power of a turbocharged screamin' 4? :?:
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    "I have a brand new P4 2.4B @ 2.7GHz here and it's only just faster in the real world terms than my XP2200+"

    I think that is strange. :?:

    I found that my ol 2,26 performs equal to two XP2400+ comps that my friend owns... In 3dmark & pc mark and they also have Ti4600 graphics and double my amount of memory...

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    I really like Intel, but i'm no maniac that refuse to open up my eyes if things should change.

    Right know there is no way i could build a amd rig that outperforms my current setup with the same amount of cash, at least not where i live. So i'll guess i stick with intel a bit longer...

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    But benchmarks arn't my priority as this does bench very well thank you but it's when I do what I do every day that I feel the difference and with what I do I find that the P4 lacks though someone who does a lot of video/audio editing will perfer the P4 but again that's not my thing. As I've said before "there are horses for certain courses". : peace2:
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    For the apps. I use and work (prof. open GL CAD/CAM/CAE) Intel is head and shoulders over AMD - even the Athlon MP setups I've tried seem to come up a little short
    I also find Intel cpu's w/ intel chipsets are the most stable for my 3 and 4 year old daughters playing Reader Rabbit and Jumpstart & pounding away on the keyboard.

    But I still prefer AMD for my own toy :D

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