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Thread: Water cooling w/ a lotta pumping power




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    Okay, need some help here... I'm quite content with my air cooling setup--well continue reading please--BUT I'm getting a little pissed off with being shrouded in the horror that is a wind tunnel. 9 fans total, 1 120 which is fairly noiseless, 5 80mm fans which are all pumping 30cfm or better, gpu cooler aint' really that noisy, and of course, the volcano 7+ (which has just been turned down to low the past few days coz i'm gettin' sick of the sound)... Anyway, overall, extremely noisy in this small little computer room. So, I'm building myself my own case (will post pics when it's complete... gimme a month or two... QUITE original in its design (think old powermac's on steroids :D)... Anywho, my new case is gonna require (if I go with water cooling (doubt the P4'd take too nicely to passive air cooling), a lotta pumping power, and not decent, but extremely nice tubes 'n great seals as leaking isn't an option. First to overview the design of the case it's basically as follows:

    L shape design, motherboard arched sideways (got desk space length wise, just not width wise) w/ connectors going to back and front (some things rather have connector on front (eg., mouse) which is 40cm (16") wide, by 35cm deep (14"), by 22.5cm tall (9"), with a modular rack of 5 1/4" drive bays to the far right, 18.75cm (7.5") wide, by 35cm deep (14"), by x cm (x*2.5") high (again modular, height could be anything)... But as it stands right now, w/ this idea, "x" is 30cm (12"). So the case is in the shape of an L (that is, an "L" laying on it's back).

    The pump/reservoir will be sitting at the very top of the "L" (all intensive purposes, this is the only spot it can sit at this point in design (gonna make later versions better when I can think of a better way to keep the solid airflow (to keep dust on it's own trail, and cooling things like ram)). The power supply is at the bottom of the modular 5 1/4" drive bays, as I don't have an ATX cable long enough on this power supply to put it at the very top of the case, or I wouldn't be posting this now (as the pump/resevoir would be at the bottom of the 5 1/4" drive bay rack).

    So basically, what I'm asking is anybody got ideas on what pump/radiator(s), water blocks and tubing I should use? (Money isn't an object at this very moment, but if I'm gonna have to spend around 800 CDN$ to make this go, I'm not even gonna bother going that route, I'll just pick up a vapochill pe, or mod this case design a bit more to fit a promethia system).

    The main thing is the pump has to be powerful enough to pump the water down the drive bay rack (shouldn't be a problem) but also through the base of the "L" shape (remember case is layed out like an "L" turned down on it's back (more like __|)), and back up through again. Or should I just look at using two pumps, one up high, and one down low so I'm pumping the water down, and then pumping the water back up? But the seals on the tubing are absolutely vital!

    Anyway thanks for the help, and I appologize for the mini-novel.
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    :laugh: lol mini-novel....you might need to buy a new case that is specialy built for holding water cooling accesories. Usualy the water coolin cases like this one are bigger and have more room to store any kind of pump and resivor you want. http://store4.yimg.com/I/xoxide_1727_25675051

    plus with more space you won't have to strain your self at figuring out how to cram all that stuff into a small case:afro:
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    Hey Suicide, is that 38c cpu temp stock or the oc one?
    Impressive!

    I have been looking at a almost similar system except maybe a slightly faster cpu and a different memory, could use some help on the last one though, dunno which brand and type that are best for really heavy oc numbers...

    :cheers:

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    Corsair 3700 memory is good, wiggo says anyway.
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    Ya the 38C is 100% loaded w/ cpuburn running for 5 hours straight at 3.325ghz. That P4, god bless it's soul is now mounted to a peice of wood with a little plaque (didn't have al otta funds to go extravagent but i got a little plaque for all of the first processors I've ever fried due to oc'ng ranging from a 286 that didn't handle the crystal change too good, to a G4 1ghz I had my way with and lost, to this P4). The replacement p4 has troubles breaking 3.2ghz, but oh well, still a decent overclock for a 2.53.

    Stock temp on _this_ p4 (she's running stock right now... why I dunno, must fix that) but anyway right now w/ seti@home in the background (machine been on for 4 hours now) cpu temp is 29 C as is chipset temp.
    <font size=1>Pentium 4 2.53GHz @ 3.515GHz (FSB: 185; VCore: 1.725)</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/heatsink/v7plus.htm">ThermalTake Volcano 7+</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.albatron.com.tw/product/PX845PEV_800.asp">Albatron PX845PEV-800</a></font>
    <font size=1>512MB Samsung DDR333 @ DDR370</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.ati.com/products/pc/radeon9700pro/">Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?prodkey=ASC-29160">Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI Controller</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,321,00.html">Seagate ST373405LW 73GB U160 SCSI</a></font>
    <font size=1>Enermax EG465P-VE 450watt PSU</font>
    <font size=1>CPU Temp (100%): 39 C; HDD Temp (100%): 31 C (100%); Chipset Temp (100%): 32 C</font>

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