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    I decided to buy a new Hard Drive and new sound card for my comp. Right now my hard drive is a standard 40GB one from Dell, and I'm gonna upgrade to a WD 80GB SE (My PCMark 2002 score for my HDD was 644, :o: ). My sound card is a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! Value card (a cheapy, I know). Here are my questions. I have a 850 chipset family mobo, and 3 hard drive bays in my tower. Would it be possible to put in both drives, transfer the important data from the old to the new, and then take the old out? Also, how difficult is installing a new HD (I'm a newb, so should I have it done professionally?), and will I need to buy a fan(s) for the new, and I'm assuming hotter running, HDD? For the sound card I'm gonna upgrade to an Audigy 2 (I heard they rule :thumb: ). Should I buy it retail or bulk? A sound card doesnt look that difficult to install, just take the old one out of the PCI slot and put the new one in. However, will all the cables and connections match up to the new card? Also, are there any other problems I might incounter? Thx for any help in advance, I'm really at a loss here. :?: :?: :?:

    : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    dont even think about getting pro help.
    installin a HD is easy.
    have a look on the top of the hd. it should have some jumper settings printed on the top.
    seeing as u already have a hd you will need to set it to the "Slave" position (you will probably need a pair of tweezers for this).
    this basically tells your motherboard that you have 2 hds.
    now, put your hd into the drive bay and screw it into it.
    if you have 2 IDE cables then your crusin' but if u only have one then you will need another.

    if you have 2 already (one for your CD drives and one for your HD)
    then attach the IDE cable that is already attached to your HD (probably on the farthest connector) to the HD on the middle connector.
    then plug in the power cable to your hd and it will work!

    if you only have one IDE cable then have a look to see if your comp came with a spare one. if not, head down to a computer store and buy one. it shouldnt cost too much.
    now, connect your hard drives up and it should work!

    as for incompatibilities with the audigy 2: it should work fine.
    i assume you are not getting the Platinum edition (its wheeey too expensive) so you sound like you can handle that.

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    Ok, sounds pretty easy... And with the two hard drives connected, I should be able to send all the info from one over to the other? Cause I dont wanna leave both connected and running, more heat = bah :yuc: . The other thing I'm worried about it how I'd get XP and all of the settings over to the new one? Is there any kind of software that I can d/l that would make it easier? Also, is installing a fan on the new HDD pretty easy too? the fan is cheap ($10, all aluminum, 2 fans, 25 cfm total) so I thought I'd just screw that on too. As far as the Audigy 2 goes, buying it bulk, its only $76 (cheap I thought) but it comes with the card and the first driver, thaz it. Buying it retail, its $116 and comes with more software and all of the cables. My questions is, are the cables I have now compatible with Audigy 2? If they are, I'd like to buy it bulk and save some money. Thx for your reply already alias, its been a big help. : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    hey, just for clarification, when I install the new hard drive, is it Old HDD > IDE cable > Mobo, New HDD > IDE Cable > Mobo, or does it go Old HDD > IDE cable > New HDD > Ide Cable > Mobo? I dont think the new HDD has two IDE cable ports, j/w. Also, I only have one power cord (the white tip with the red, black, yellow, and white wires coming out of it?) that goes to the HDD, so to get both running at the same time, I would have to unplug one from my CD-RW and plug it into the new HDD, and once I get the info over, I can take the old drive out, put the original HDD power cord into the new one, and return the other power cord back to the CD-RW? Finally, the Audigy 2 card comes with one cable, anyone know what it is? Here's the site:

    http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=290217

    Thx again, : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    The cables you have should be the ones you need for the SB card. OEM version should work just fine and can even be found for a little less on Pricewatch.
    You may have to change a jumper on the old drive too (don't know what brand it is) as some drives have settings for both master and master w/slave. I suggest buying the hd retail. They show up regularly at places like Bestbuy and Compusa with rebates, making the final price much better than online prices. The retail box will have the proper cable, software to easily transfer everything from the old drive, and detailed instructions on the whole shebang. If you are short a power connector for the 2nd hd you can temporaraily use the one from the cd or buy a splitter when you buy the hd (approx. $3).

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    That's exactly what I wanted to hear :thumb: . I'll buy the bulk version of the card, seeing that everyone I've talked to so far as said they'll match up, and that's only $76 :D . There's a Bestbuy at the local mall, so I'll go buy the Wester Digital 80GB SE w/8MB buffer that I was looking at from them. I've bought stuff from them before and you're totally right; their mail-in rebates are really good. Other than that, I think that's all the the upgrading I'm gonna do at the moment, thx for all the help, : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    one last, thing, almost forgot, am I gonna need that fan or no? There's no fans on the HDD bay at the moment. Also, where does it install (specifically)? Sry about that, thx for all teh help already, : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    Keeping your hard drive cool makes it last longer in my opinion. Much depends on your case design as to how you might want to add cooling for the hd. Some cases have a fan mount directly in front of the 3" internal drive bays. There are coolers that mount on the bottom of the hd, but I've never thought much of them. If you have an extra 5" bay open, you can find a cooler that fits in the bay and holds the drive (that's what I use on my main rig). They range in price from around $15-40us.

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    k, sounds good. I found a duel fan, all aluminum, with a total of 25 cfm flow for $11, I think I'll get that one
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    I'm just posting this as a follow up :thumb: . Everything turned out pretty good . I got an Audigy 2 from Comp USA for $119 on sale w/ drivers, cables, and a whole bunch of software (hitman 2 included, awesome game :D ). Now I just have to get a 4.1 or higher speaker system to take full advantage of the EAX and other wicked surround sound options that the card has; but I gotta tell everyone: 24-bit sound is sooooo much better :thumb: . Also, I went and got a 7200rpm 160GB Maxtor HDD w/ 8MB Cache and a free 133 Controller card for $129. My old HDD was a 5400rpm and didnt require the controller card, but I got it hooked up pretty well. I left the old drive in there (data wouldnt transfer to the new one, go figure :?: ), so the old one has all my system, XP, and music files, and I basically use it for storage. The New HDD I use for performance, and have all my games and DVD programs installed on it. I think it's the fastest this way so the info on the old 40GB doesnt bog down the speed of the new one. All in all, I'm pretty happy. My HDD scores in PCMark 2002 went from a 644 up to 1382, schwing! :peace2: , and my RAM scores went up from 4581 to 4731, not bad . Also, I didnt need the fan, cause the case is still pretty cool. The maxtor is louder than the Wester Digital, as the sales person told me, but I cant even hear it over my fan; and besides, I'd rather save the $80+ :D . Well, job well done I say, thx for all the advice, it was a big help, : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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