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  1. #21
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    Default Re: vista

    I don't think he's allowed too.

    Some legal things aside, there are legal ways to install vista on a clean machine with an update DVD, so you can buy the cheaper one, as well as extending the trial period once to 180 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CColtManM View Post
    "Not totally true. Vista has far better management of resources like RAM and I/O (hard disk).

    It is true however Vista ships with more default services and running applications at boot, but with the performance enhancements in the kernel, I think it can be outweighed.

    With more driver improvements in the future, you can expect a lot better performing and stable computers running Vista than XP. At the moment, Vista is marginally slower than XP."
    I disagree. Although Vista does have slightly better I/O management and some general kernel improvements (hell, it even boots faster on most systems), the overall bulkiness of the OS and the way it interfaces with video and sound adapters far outweigh any performance advantages. Vista is marginally slower than XP on a system with 1GB of RAM and a P4/A64 or better. It's much slower on anything less.

    The comparison is simlar with 98 and XP/2000. Without question, 98 would run normally on a system that was nearing minimum XP/2K requirements, but XP would run like a dog. Past a certain point, XP had the same or better performance, and certainly a number of kernel improvements. The same is essentially true with Vista and XP.

    Driver improvements will eventually take the difference in gaming down to a reasonable level, say 5%, but Vista will always be a bulkier, slower OS. What I said has nothing to do with its improvements, and I stand by it.

    Regarding Vista, forum policy prohibits linking to piracy-related materials or giving instructions on pirating various things. To what level you can talk about this is basically at our discretion.

    As for as I know, the only thing that can currently be done with Vista is extending the activation period to 180 days. Pirating Vista is currently very impractical, and certainly not worthwhile.
    Last edited by Yawgm0th; 02-09-2007 at 10:08 AM.

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    i read on techpowerup that it was cracked by a bunch of iranians and they are gonna sell it at $8 a copy, dont know how accurate that info is tho.
    to be honest, im very happy with XP at the moment.
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    AMD athlon 64 3200 venice @ 2.4ghz
    Asrock Dual-939SATA2
    Sapphire Radeon X800GTO2 chip r430 @ 480mhz core/540mhz mem with 1.6v vcore
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    250gb Hitatchi deskstar T7K500 SATAII disk
    160gb samsung spinpoint PATA disk
    Asus 1608P2 DVD+/-RW Dual Layer
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    Innovatek and Asetek Watercooling (triple fan radiator)
    LOTS OF METAL

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    Yeah, the extension of the activation, and the server activation. For instance, if you got your hands on a Vista Enterprise edition, then pretended to host a server on your computer, you can activate your Vista on the server every 3 or 6 months. It's similar to the Volume Liscence in Office 2007 and XP.

    But, you get Enterprise, not Ultimate.

    @Yawgm0th: I am sure your right. I have not really even looked into Vista much further than a glimpse in the registry and services crap. I notice there are A LOT of services that boot up default, and i'm sure you can take a lot of those off. Time will tell though of Vista's true improvement. They have changed ALOT though, even though it doesn't look like it.

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    It is true that there have been a lot of kernel changes. Most of them aren't noticeable, but there are some real improvements that will be appreciated over time. Allegedly, what few stability issues there were with XP have been more or less resolved. It's also less necessary to reboot as often, which is nice.

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