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    Here's the deal. I can get a really good deal on a brand new copy of XP upgrade. About one eigth of what I can get XP for. I know previous MS 'upgrades' have been less than usable for the average geek. In part because the OS isn't completely in one place like it is on a normal OS install disk.

    Is the jury still out on wether or not the XP upgrade is garbage? Please refrain from using other upgrade version experience as suggestions, because I know they have been poor, but I need specific info on wether or not anything has changed.

    And the other part to this question is, what OS's can you upgrade from with a XP upgrade. For example can you upgrade from Win95?

    Thanks

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    I've only seen one's from 98 onwards but they mabe around. :?:
    I think 2K was the last support for 95. :?:

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    Yea, the only legal spare copies not in use I have are a few 95b copies. I don't trust the upgrade enough to use on my main machine right away... I know XP is good, I just am weary about the upgrade...

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    Something to consider...

    Win9x uses a different kernel than Win2k or XP. This would indicate that you'll be getting a fresh install regardless since the two aren't compatible. :)
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    There is no upgrade path from 95 to XP, the minimum requirement is Win98.

    For the first time, even though it is a upgrade CD you can boot off it and do a clean install, you just need your old media to qualify the upgrade.
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    Oh yeah and you can't go from Win2k to XP home, only to XP Pro
    My Box:
    Intel Pentium 4 2.4C @ 2.7
    DFI 875P Lanparty
    512Mb Geil PC3500 Dual Channel (Cas 2-6-3-3 @450MHz DDR)
    Leadtek A280 Geforce4 4200 MyVIVO
    Audigy DE
    1 x 73Gb Seagate fibre channel 10krpm (boot drive) with LSI HBA
    1x80Gig Seagate Barracuda ATA V
    1x120Gig Western Digital 8mb cache
    Spiffy Antec Super Lanboy (LED fan and UV light)

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    Here's what MS have to say about upgrading:

    <table class="tblMatrix" border="1" frame="below" bordercolorlight="#FFFFFF" bordercolordark="#999999" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"><tr><td valign="top" class="tblHeader" >Previous Version</td><td align="center" class="tblHeader" valign="top" width="125" >Windows XP<br />Home Edition</td><td align="center" class="tblHeader" valign="top" width="125" >Windows XP<br />Professional</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows 3.1</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Any Evaluation Version</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Any Server Version</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows 95</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows 98/Windows 98 SE</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">YES</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">YES</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows Me</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">YES</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">YES</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows NT® Workstation 3.51</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows NT Workstation 4.0</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">YES</td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows 2000 Professional</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">YES</td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows XP Home Edition</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata"> </td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">YES</td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" class="tblcolone">Windows XP Professional</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata">NO</td><td align="center" valign="top" class="tbldata"> </td></tr></table>

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    For the first time, even though it is a upgrade CD you can boot off it and do a clean install, you just need your old media to qualify the upgrade.
    Really? Are you absolutley sure? Can anyone else verify this?

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    I found this with google... (on a site with a 5/10 google rating---which is pretty good, equal to Tweaktowns rating)
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    Q. How can the Windows XP Upgrade be clean-installed? That is, clean- installed on a hard disk on which an older version of Windows is installed, on a new hard disk drive, or one that has been formatted or taken down to "bare metal?

    A. There are (at least) four ways to clean-install the Windows XP UPGRADE. Be sure to back-up your data before attempting any of them. Do it at your own risk.

    1. Do the upgrade from an existing older version of Windows on the hard disk (run D:\>setup if the XP CD doesn’t autostart when the CD is inserted, where D: is your CD-ROM drive) and remove partitions/partition/format the C: drive from Setup.

    2. Boot to the CD-ROM drive, if your computer will boot to the CD-ROM drive (make it the first boot device and try). It will boot to Setup. If a previous version of Windows is not on the hard disk drive, it will ask you to insert a CD from qualifying version of Windows to verify before continuing the installation. I don’t know if your previous version of Windows will work. I have heard that Windows 95 cannot be upgraded to Windows XP; however, the qualifying products listed when I did it (several times) were:

    “Please insert your Windows NT 3.51 Workstation, Windows NT 4.0 Workstation, Windows 2000 Professional, Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Millennium CD into your CD-ROM drive.”

    After verification, you can then delete, create, and format partitions.

    3. From the DOS prompt, use Windows 98, Me (95 OSR2 might work) Startup floppy (http://duxcw.com/digest/Fromshop/sof...up/startup.htm and http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/softwa...tup/page1.html). Put a copy of smartdrv.exe on the Startup floppy. You should be able to find a copy on and existing Windows 9x/Me computer at C:\windows. It is on the CD’s in D:\win98. Use fdisk to partition the drive. Format the C: drive. Do not install the system files. If you have more than one partition, they can be formatted during the Windows XP installation or with Windows XP after it is installed. Also, use fdisk to manually make C: active if there is more one partition. Load smartdrv.exe…

    A:\>smartdrv.exe

    …and run D:\i386\winnet.exe.

    It will ask for a CD from a previous version of Windows. Do not delete or reformat C: with this method. Winnt.exe copies the install files to that partition. You can convert it to NTFS and that process is fast. This method also works with a generic copy of Windows XP Professional OEM, which is a full version of Windows for computer manufacturers to install on new computers. It should also work if the i386 directory is copied to a scratch hard disk and the hard disk is connected to the secondary IDE interface.

    4. Download the Windows XP Home Edition Setup floppies from Microsoft at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/r...leaseid=33290. BTW, that link also states that Windows 95 qualifies. There are six Setup floppies (sigh!), which probably makes this method the least desirable. I don’t have the foggiest idea why Microsoft did not include the capability to make the floppies from the CD like Windows NT and 2000. Furthermore, the requirement to use six floppies to get a setup going is an imposition of absurdly unnecessary inconvenience on the end user/shop and is an extreme example of absolute laziness on the part of Microsoft. It should not have been used for Windows NT. It should have been overhauled with Windows 2000. It was made worse by XP. If you ever make and use these floppies you will know what I mean and the reason for this flame.

    When all done, be sure to make a restore floppy and put it a safe place. Don’t learn that lesson the hard way like I and many others have.

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