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    Default Can I delete the page file?

    I have heard and read that putting your page file on another hard drive will help. I have done that for several reasons but now I want to know how I can or if I can delete the left over page file that is on the c drive where it originated. I have a page file for hdd F in place. This is vista os.
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    Default Re: Can I delete the page file?

    Being familiar with XP .ini files I can say it would be all right to do this, but I'm not sure with Vista. It should be safe to do so but I'd wait for someone with a bit more knowledge with this new OS.
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    Default Re: Can I delete the page file?

    If you were to delete the page file, you'll need alot of RAM since the pagefile is the virtual memory file when your RAM runs out. I've read in a PC magazine you can delete the page file[s], BUT ull need alot of RAM to do so, maybe 3-4GB. IF you do have a old computer you can test it on there.

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    Default Re: Can I delete the page file?

    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    If you were to delete the page file, you'll need alot of RAM since the pagefile is the virtual memory file when your RAM runs out. I've read in a PC magazine you can delete the page file[s], BUT ull need alot of RAM to do so, maybe 3-4GB. IF you do have a old computer you can test it on there.
    The page file still exists but has been created on another drive. The question is for removing the original one still residing on the C:\ drive.
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    Default Re: Can I delete the page file?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darthtanion View Post
    The page file still exists but has been created on another drive. The question is for removing the original one still residing on the C:\ drive.
    Some apps, like Adobe Photoshop (from what I hear tell @ least, don't use it myself) will get "upset" & complain you don't have enough virtual memory IF a pagefile.sys is not present.

    Adobe Photoshop, afaik & for instance? Controls its OWN threadwork & processors detected usage as well, & does NOT rely on/stress the Process Scheduler portion of the OS as far as thread-to-CPU usage (where a thread of execution runs, which CPU)... so, it would NOT surprise me they also do much of their OWN memory allocation & control also, @ a virtual memory level (all memory is REALLY virtual, as far as our modern Windows NT-based OS' are concerned though).

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    AS TO PAGEFILE.SYS LOCATIONS:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\SessionManager|MemoryManagement|\PagingFiles

    That area of the registry controls it!

    Here, you can do it, graphically:

    Control Panel/System/Advanced tab/Performance
    Settings/Advanced/Virtual memory

    Just posting this material as a reference here is all.

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    Back on track - NOW, IF you do the deletion of a permanent pagefile.sys (does not matter even if you moved it to another diskdrive (or, as I do, to a solid-state Ramdrive partition (CENATEK RocketDrive user here))?

    AND, you don't typically use applications that load up so much initially they don't fit into your available RAM??

    (Which is pretty doubtful as to it happening nowadays FROM THE APP ITSELF BEING TOO BIG)

    I say that, mainly because apps can call functions from prebuilt libs (DLL's usually, or ActiveX controls etc.) & ONLY load the portion of them they need (either via LoadLibrary/UnloadLibrary Win32 API calls OR @ program startup, instancing ALL of its forms).

    HOWEVER, apps do NOT load the whole lib mass, & typically, ONLY load the functions needed from a DLL load right into the calling apps' own address space).

    Executables PAGE BACK TO THEMSELVES, the backing .exe (1 type) on disk & NOT THE PAGEFILE.SYS!

    (Plus, a well-designed app ONLY loads forms into memory, as needed & unloads them when the user is done using them))...

    Anyhow/anyways - WELL, for the most part?

    You'll be OK, until that app possibly loads in a dataset that exceeds available memory/RAM.

    That's when the pagefile.sys actually gets used:

    WITH DATA APPS USE!

    BUT, if you have data that is "HUGE" (purely a relative term)?

    That's when your pagefile.sys comes into play, the most.

    I got into this with another person on another forums, & we analyzed the heck out of it... more than a decade ago in fact, iirc.

    E.G. -> Taskmgr.exe was showing pagefaulting like MAD (in its PROCESSES TAB with ALL columns present/possible being shown for analysis purposes), & especially on EXPLORER.EXE (your desktop shell & filemgt. tool).

    I.E.-> I could NOT figure it out, until I realized that .exe files page back to their originating backing file on disk, rather than the pagefile.sys file... because we set his system to NOT use a pagefile.sys & also NO "temp pagefile" formed where it was supposed to (see my P.S. below).

    Was a real "refresher course" study, years ago, doing that experiment in fact on the mechanics of Windows' virtual memory mgt. in action.

    APK

    P.S.=> A temporary pagefile.sys forms in %SystemRoot%\System32 though IF one is NOT present though, typically, so keep that in mind as wellm & it's called temppf.sys there in %windir%\system32... apk

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