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  1. #41
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    Dave,

    My system is
    A:\ floppy
    C:\ scsi system drive
    D:\ ide cd rom
    E:\ 2 x 2 swappable scsi media drives as Raid 0.
    Another drive 'spare'

    The spare drive I could use to do a parrallel install of XP, yes (as 1 option). I cannot do this however because for some reason BIOS changes to make CD Rom drive as first boot device have not worked.
    Why, I don't know.

    I don't know if I need to reinstall the Cd Rom drivers for some unknown reason to get it to work. It's recognised in bios.
    peterC

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    Dave,

    My Bios' (it's a little complicated) are:
    1) M/B
    AMI BIOS VERSION 07.00.01
    BIOS BUILD DATE 04/26/01
    BIOS ID OAAWGP20

    2) SCSI BIOS
    LSI LOGIC CORP. SYMBIOS SDMS (TM) V4.0 PCI SCSI BIOS
    REV 2.0,2.1
    PCI-4.17.00


    3) & 4)
    AMI MEGARAID 40- LD BIOS VER 3.09 AUG 21, 2000 (on POST)
    Within the 2 utilities:
    -MEGARAID WEBBIOS VER 1.32
    -MEGARAID BIOS CONFIGURATION UTILITY (40-LD)
    VER 5.12 JUNE 6, 2000
    STANDARD ADAPTER- 01

    Sorry you asked?

    I use the AMI 493 scsi controller (now LSI LOGIC Elite 1600 series)

    It has 65mb of o/b sd ram and its own NVRam chipset for raid configuration memory retention.

    The right kind of gear for a novice to be using, right?

    I cannot see anything in the scsi bios setups to alter that may be causing CD Rom drive to be bypassed on boot.
    I can disable scsi altogether in them, but I have already removed the card once and that left me only the CD Rom in the system, and still it won't boot. I have swapped cd drives too.
    ???
    peterC

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    Dave ,
    did I say previously that occasionally the Win XP interface gets into Check Disk?
    Sometimes it does on this recycling thing, seems to be a 'standard' test; verifies disk and data are ok ( C:\ drive only) then back to POST startup.
    ???
    I've seen nothing of it from my own research, but somebody mentioned that I could change my registry problem through DOS.
    --------------------------------------------------
    If you do manage to boot to a floppy, try C:\windows\command\scanreg /restore.
    This will give you a list of registry backups that you can load.
    ---------------------------------------------------

    I have no knowledge or understanding of this. I have seen nothing of this in my data collation.

    Do you have any idea if it's workable?

    I want to be sure on this before I try it.
    peterC

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    Peter

    What a nightmare!

    You should only need to change your base board AMI bios version 7.... It is the BIOS that you will enter when you hit DEL key on system start up. (some times this might be another key depending on your motherboard but your should know the answer to this). The entry screen of this bios will have a menu that will be entitled AMIBIOS SIMPLE SETUP UTILITY -VERSION...

    Highlight "STANDARD CMOS SETUP" and pres ENTER
    Look at the information to see if your CDROM drive is listed and it is set to AUTO, press Page UP/DOWN to change
    Press ESC

    Highlight "BIOS FEATURES SETUP" press enter
    Make 1st Boot Device : Floppy (pressing Page UP/DOWN to modify)
    Make 2nd Boot Device : CDROM
    Make 3rd Boot Device : SCSI or (Disable, but this might give problems late)

    Press ESC then SAVE & EXIT SETUP, press Y to save then ENTER which will return you to system restart.

    This should set you up to make your CDROM the first boot device assuming you have no diskette in your floppy drive.

    Proceed as previously discussed.

    Regards - keep smiling, its a test from above
    Dave Barr

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    Dave
    Regards - keep smiling, its a test from above
    That it is.
    I'm not passing though. If I knew how long I needed to wait before being allowed to proceed further, I'd stop now and go onto the other things that are piling up around me (as usual).
    Fate, destiny, my plan is not your plan,..... I don't know.
    Bios
    I've been there. It must have something to do with these Scsi bios layers. What else?

    My bios is

    Main-
    bios v#
    processor
    ram
    etc

    Advanced-
    >Super IO confign>>>
    >IDE>>>
    >floppy>
    >PCI PnP>>>
    >boot settings>>>
    >o/b device>>>
    >system health>>>

    Power-
    >>>

    Boot-
    >boot device priority
    >>1 cd rom
    >>2 rem dev
    >>3 hd
    >>4 SYM53C8XX Boot Sup (still don't get this, LSI scsi, manual vague)

    >hdd
    >>pci raid adapter (b

    >removable devices
    >>1st rem dev >>1st floppy

    >ATAPI CD ROM drives
    >>1st atapi cd rom >> mat****a 594

    Security-
    >>>

    Exit-
    >>>

    It looks ok to me , but something must not be set right.
    peterC

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    Dave, I'm on to something. I 'll keep you informed
    peterC

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    Peter

    It just gets deeper and deeper in the mire.

    It must have worked at some point, so:

    I'm pretty sure that SCSI is the dominant boot device, therefore you should try to disable boot device 4 'SYM53C8XX Boot Sup'. If you can't do that try removing the LSI card. The object is to try to force the system to boot from the cdrom drive but you will still need to get to your hard drive at some point.

    I'm fast running out of ideas.

    The object is to get your machine running in very basic mode. Do you have any IDE drives on the machine and does BIOS see them?. It is a very basic concept to make the CDROM drive a boot device.

    Have you tried talking to LSI direct and explain the problem? Have you looked for any LSI forums for similar problems to yours?

    Talk to you soon

    PS: if you can boot from your A:drive then how about invoking the Recovery Console from Diskette, I have a set and could email them one a t a time, 6off.

    Regards :?:
    Dave Barr

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    Hi Dave.
    All this time I have been trying to boot from the D:\ cdrom drive. No go. Use a different cd drive, the same thing. This is always using the Win XP cd.
    I decided to do a check with another cd. Norton Systemworks.
    What happened?
    Cd rom drive engaged and immediately did a system scan.
    4hrs and 9mins 39secs later it tells me I have a clean system:

    Norton scanning
    Memory - ok
    Master boot records - OK
    Boot record- ok
    files- c:\ - ok

    Summary: no viruses found
    Items scanned: C:
    File type: All files
    Scan time: 4hrs 9mins 39secs

    Item Scanned Infected Cleaned
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Memory: Yes No ----
    Master Boot Records: 2 0 ----

    Boot Records: 1 0 ----

    Files: 132733 0 ----

    Date 090702


    Part 1
    peterC

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    So 3 days later:

    1) I'm still wondering if the MBR is OK because Norton maybe doesn't 'test' for this???

    2) Why the hell will my Win XP cd engage on one of my other computers but NOT on the server which is now down going into the 4th week???
    Nor will it load Windows ME cd???

    3) Occasionally, on this cycling reboot which I cannot bypass, Win XP engages the GUI and proceeds with a Check Disk. It reports back at the end of it that there are no Bad Sectors, no corrupt files (?- I'm going on memory here) etc.
    Basically a 'clean', 'good' drive.
    So where does that leave me with this Stop Error Message, telling me that I have a corrupt Registry???

    4) Does a 'full' system drive mean that this will not change, ie never be able to get o/s cd to boot???

    4 questions, I can't answer.

    Part 2 of 3
    peterC

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    Part 3 of 3

    Currently I'm staring down the barrel of a new installation on a spare drive and clawing back from that. That presents me with other problems besides the time it takes to do so. And next time we have a system failure? Same thing/way again? I don't think so.

    There must be a way:

    1) to get to a Restore Point like I did before without too much drama.

    2) determine why the system failed as soon as I moved away from RexEdit's default Ram/Buffer Settings to Manual. (this is my video editing program which started all this off)

    In this instance, all the more reason to be able to Recover quickly and easily, because this may be the only way to find out what went wrong, where. (The guinea pig routine)

    I don't blame you if at this stage you wish to leave the room, if I could, I would have left long ago.
    You mentioned the 6 disks. I'm giong to refresh my memory on what they allow me to do.

    This is enough to drive anybody to drink.

    Thanks
    peterC

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