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    aznx, this time I'm gonna refute some of your points.. :)

    inactive icons can be seen by pressing that little arrow
    Seems to me that it's almost like using the Start menu.. so you might as well use that instead.

    acutally, it doesn't drain that many resources, just about 15 mbs of memory.lol and it does help, or has helped me in the past
    That's a fair chunk of memory still. And is it really worth it?

    ahh, screw the recycle bin..haha
    To use one of your points "It does help. It has helped me in the past" :D

    acutally, the only reason you have 2mb wallpapers are because of bmps, so just use the 1mb jpgs =P
    Using a JPG file isn't that much better, as to show the jpg file the computer has to use a couple more CPU cycles to uncompress the file, which is then stored uncompressed in memory.. :) So in effect it's more work and more taxing on the resources.

    i want to know one game that has crashed because of virtual memory on my 512p + 128v setup =), there isn't really one since they all use about 100-200mbs of physical which is enough, unless your bootup takes like 300mbs..
    Some people like to take multitasking to the extremes... Having lots of applications open at once or use memory intensive programs like Photoshop / video editing packages. This is just a little buffer for people like that.

    Just a few points.. :D

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    That virtual memory one is actually very important. Most people don't realise that modern games really do need large amounts of memory to store textures and whatnot.

    If you look at the system requirements for Morrowind (a big crash culprit) it actually says as one of its requirements on the box "Windows swapfile". Doesn't say how big - I think it assumes you'll let windows determine it.

    Generally, I've found 9 times out of 10 that you will crash to desktop more often if:

    1. You have a fixed swapfile and it's too small. Even older games like UnrealTournament with the S3 textures require 800MB+ total memory.
    2. You have a window-determined swapfile and it's being utilised a lot. That is, you haven't applied the memory tweaks in the guide and your kernel and games files are being paged back and forth rapidly.
    3. You've overclocked your FSB, hence RAM is running at higher Mhz combined with aggressive RAM settings like 2-2-2-5. Also your CPU/RAM voltage may not be sufficient.

    One or more of the above is almost always the reason behind a crash to desktop, or system slowdowns after a game is quit (e.g your wallpaper disappears or needs to be "refreshed"). I know this from experience, and from being a regular on games forums :)

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    Great guide, except twothing. After going through everything I can no longer browse my network. I'm guessing it was one of the services, anyone know which one would cause this error?"

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    Unable to browse the network

    The network is not present or not started.

    For more information bla bla bla
    --

    And I no longer have the ability to share folders?

    I really don't want to have to do a system restore becouse I am noticing an overall improvment, but these two things are kinda important.

    Thanks for any help.

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    You don't need to do a system restore.

    Try turning on the blatantly Network-related services first (Set them to Automatic) such as:

    Network DDE
    Network DDE DSM
    Terminal Services

    The changes won't come into effect until you reboot btw.

    More importantly, check the link I give to the WinXP Services Guide at the end of my guide. That contains detailed explanations (or links to detailed explanations) of every MS Service.

    All my service recommendations are based on personal experience, and I used the "Safe" settings in that Services Guide.

    As for sharing folders, well either it's related to one of the services above (which I suspect), or check page 3 of the guide, at the bottom where you may have unticked "Automatically search for network folders and printers" under Folder Options.

    The guide's not really designed for network machines because I turn off so many networking features. As stated it's more for gamers but I apologise if it's caused you any inconvenience.

    Let me know if you need more help :)

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Beefy
    [b]aznx, this time I'm gonna refute some of your points.. :)

    cool

    inactive icons can be seen by pressing that little arrow
    Seems to me that it's almost like using the Start menu.. so you might as well use that instead.

    ya, but the start menu is totally different, the inactive icons just makes your taskbar less cluttered and you can see more "tasks"..

    acutally, it doesn't drain that many resources, just about 15 mbs of memory.lol and it does help, or has helped me in the past
    That's a fair chunk of memory still. And is it really worth it?

    i doubt 15mbs is a LOT of memory, its what like 3% of 512, not a GREAT deal of memory percent wise

    ahh, screw the recycle bin..haha
    To use one of your points "It does help. It has helped me in the past" :D

    heh..usually i just burn stuff over 200mbs but ok..i'll give on the recycle bin one

    acutally, the only reason you have 2mb wallpapers are because of bmps, so just use the 1mb jpgs =P
    Using a JPG file isn't that much better, as to show the jpg file the computer has to use a couple more CPU cycles to uncompress the file, which is then stored uncompressed in memory.. :) So in effect it's more work and more taxing on the resources.

    i was being scarcastic but ok, just leave it white..lol or use minimalistic wallpapers

    i want to know one game that has crashed because of virtual memory on my 512p + 128v setup =), there isn't really one since they all use about 100-200mbs of physical which is enough, unless your bootup takes like 300mbs..
    Some people like to take multitasking to the extremes... Having lots of applications open at once or use memory intensive programs like Photoshop / video editing packages. This is just a little buffer for people like that.

    i still haven't seen a game that has done that to my setup, i can run photoshop, winamp3, mirc, like 5 ie windows, microsoft visual studio 2002, starcraft, all at the same time..lol, dunno, maybe freaky new games are just eating away "virtual memory"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PersianImmortal
    That virtual memory one is actually very important. Most people don't realise that modern games really do need large amounts of memory to store textures and whatnot.

    If you look at the system requirements for Morrowind (a big crash culprit) it actually says as one of its requirements on the box "Windows swapfile". Doesn't say how big - I think it assumes you'll let windows determine it.

    Generally, I've found 9 times out of 10 that you will crash to desktop more often if:

    1. You have a fixed swapfile and it's too small. Even older games like UnrealTournament with the S3 textures require 800MB+ total memory.
    2. You have a window-determined swapfile and it's being utilised a lot. That is, you haven't applied the memory tweaks in the guide and your kernel and games files are being paged back and forth rapidly.
    3. You've overclocked your FSB, hence RAM is running at higher Mhz combined with aggressive RAM settings like 2-2-2-5. Also your CPU/RAM voltage may not be sufficient.

    One or more of the above is almost always the reason behind a crash to desktop, or system slowdowns after a game is quit (e.g your wallpaper disappears or needs to be "refreshed"). I know this from experience, and from being a regular on games forums :)
    i used to run unrealtournament goty edition with 128p - 256v, it ran fine, yes its 800+mbs of total textures but its not like you see all the textures at once, thats what the video card's memory is for, fast swapping of the textures etc..ut is mostly processor heavy, not texture crazy

    my windows swapfile is never used..lol, its like always the physical ram thats used, but hey i guess it all depends on how much hd space you have to use, since i got my 80gig, might consider increasing the swapfile =P i still doubt it though

    i don't understand how o/cing the fsb would effect memory usuage, it'd just either make it really cr*ppy since the memory sucks or make it really really efficent since the memory rocks. most risk is probably system stability and thats about it.

    ya the reason it refreshes is you don't have enough memory, actually i think on every game it refreshes the desktop since its probably at a different resolution. maybe it depends on the icons settings and whether to cache the icons or not, since you'd have to rebuild the icons that way..

    ya the game thing has happened to me before but just wait like 5 seconds and its done with its thing, well atleast on my computer

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    Just remember that each tweak is only to be used on an individual basis to suit the personal needs of the person using that system. I can see a lot that I'd use and some that I wouldn't due to personal tastes on how I think my os should behave but everyone is different and what one will like another won't. If we all wanted the same thing then this would be an awful boring world and Bill would rule us all. :eek:
    Good job there PersianImmortal. :thumb:
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    hehehehe

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    Something in this guide completely trashed my video card settings. After making these changes and upon reboot, my GeForce 4 Ti4200 would not load its drivers. For a detail description of the problems I had, see this thread in a different forum:

    http://www.guru3d.com/forum/showthre...threadid=33141

    Also, my windows explorer no longer shows my hard drive. When I open explorer, the only folders that show up in the left hand column are in order:

    My Network Places (what the hell is that - what happened to My computer)
    Recycle Bin
    My Documents
    sub My Music
    sub My Pictures
    sub My Received Files

    What happended to my C: drive, my A: drive, and my D: CD-RW ???? They're no longer showing up in windows explorer. :confused:

    Which one of the so called tweaks caused these problems? Especially the conflict between my AGP port and video card.

    Daffy

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    Did you backup your registry before doing these tweaks plus did you check the result of each tweak before going on to the next? :?:
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