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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    When you follow the Memtest86+ instructions, it is on a self booting drive with it's own o/s.
    You don't need any additional drives installed in your system.
    All you need is a properly setup floppy, usb, or optical disk with Memtest86+ installed on it.
    If you don't understand something that I've said, for example bootable drive, ask.
    REMOVE ALL UNNEEDED DRIVES FROM YOUR SYSTEM AND RUN MEMTEST86+.

    You have a hardware problem.
    It's probably your power supply or your memory. It could also be your cpu or motherboard.
    It's trial and error trying to determine which component has a problem.
    If you can borrow another power supply, you can see if your system works better with the other psu.
    It's easier to test with a minimal amount of memory.
    Any type of brand new hardware can be faulty.

    How old is your psu and what is the brand and model number?
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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    how do i boot off the usb drive with memtest 86 on it. i was able to create a boot dvd with memtest86 on it but i'd like to use a usb also.
    The psu is an Ultra LS 500 watt psu bought in 2008

    Ii downloaded memtest86 4.2 for bootable usb and installed it on the usb. it won't boot from the usb even though i changed the bios to boot from usb-zip.

    Memtest results:
    2 sticks in a1 & a2 - 164 errors found in a 14 minute run going past ten tests
    stick a1 in slot a1 no errors
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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    To boot from a usb you need to select one of these options: USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-CDROM or USB-HDD.
    Press F12 while your system is posting and select one of the options from the boot menu.
    In your bios, set Legacy USB storage detect = [Enabled] to boot using usb devices. See page 43, Integrated Peripherals.
    You might need to press F12 repeatedly at one second intervals to get the boot menu.
    Another option is to go into the bios Advanced BIOS Features panel and manually select one of the usb options as the First Boot Device.
    I find it easiest to run Memtest86+ from a floppy or CD.

    When running this test with 4GB of memory, a full loop of 8 tests takes about 20 minutes for the first test loop and about 40 minutes for all of the following test loops.
    Make sure that you are running the 4.20 version of Memtest86+.
    You should avoid running the similar program called Memtest.
    Memtest results:
    2 sticks in a1 & a2 - 164 errors found in a 14 minute run going past ten tests
    stick a1 in slot a1 no errors
    It sounds like you ran a single test repeatedly for 14 minutes.
    You need to run the default 8 tests per loop for at least 5 full loops.
    If an error occurs, note the error information and stop the test. Even one error indicates that there is a problem.
    The memory slots are called DDR2_1 through DDR2_4 in the user manual on page 16. Technically each ddr2 slot is names DDRII_x.
    When testing with two memory modules, use the DDR2_1 and DDR2_2 memory slots.

    You didn't provide detailed information about which tests failed.
    Posting a photo of the Memtest86+ results will provide detailed information that we need.

    You need to post your full bios settings (from the template) each time there are errors.
    Don't tell us that you used the same settings as last time. I'm not going to go search through this thread to find the settings that I think you are using each time you perform a new test.

    It looks like you set (G)MCH OverVoltage Control = [+0.1V], even though I said to set it to +0.2v with the added comment that +0.1 might work.

    Sample showing a single Memtest86+ error:

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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    it was hard for me to post anything with the system so unstable that's why i didn't post screen shots. i'm answering this from my laptop. i ran the test for a good 10 to 15 minutes with 1 memory stick in each slot and there were no error at all. i am now using memtest 86 4.2 booted from a dvd. each time i changed the slot i reran the test and no failures. with all 4 sticks in i got about 2400 errors after running it for a half hour. i took all but 1 stick out and booted the machine and it seemed solid. i went back and forth looking at the event log, internet whatever because this is where the machine failed before. i then put in another stick for a toral of 2 sticks of ram and still stable. what i want to do now is test the psu with a multimeter. for a while the machine has struggled to boot up. it would wind up or sounds like that then wind down for lack of a better description. it does this for a few times before it boots. it could also like you said be the mobo. i tested the the power button by removing the jumper that goes on the pins for the power button and touched them with a screw driver and it did a jittery start again so i knew the power button wasn't the issue. i'll go in to the bios and make that voltage change also. i do have the template so i can post that up for you. i change the (G)MCH voltage to [+0.2v]

    I tried to add the template as you said but i did it wrong. i didn't see a code option in the advanced section
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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    Testing the psu with a DMM (digital multi-meter) might help if you can find a power wire that is consistently out of spec.
    A better approach is to borrow a working psu and see if that change alone fixes the problem.
    From your description of 3 versus 4 memory modules, it sounds like setting (G)MCH OverVoltage Control = [+0.2V] might fix the problem.
    Let me know if this setting has finer adjustments, such as 0.125, 0.150, etc.
    My P35-DS3L only has 0.1, 0.2, and 0.3 settings.

    From your description, it sounds like you have a boot loop problem where the system powers up for a few seconds, then powers down and repeats this sequence several times. If the system eventually boots OK, you need to immediately go into the bios and see if any of your custom bios settings have been reset to their default values.

    Be sure to always press the CTRL + F1 keys at the main bios screen before you go to into the M.I.T. section. Pressing these keys will show all hidden bios settings.

    Post the Ram, CAS, and Channel settings from the Memtest86+ screen.
    For general information about running with 4 memory modules, check out this PDF file: http://forum.corsair.com/v3/attachme...chmentid=3803/
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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    i'll run memtest again and post some of the errors. there was so many i couldn't post them all. i had the system up and connected the external drives and copied some folders over to the internal drive. it was ok for a while then at about 28% into the copy(large folder) i got 'kernel security check failure' and it rebooted. also the drive which is usb connected went off line which caused a message that said the drive was missing and one of the options was to try again which i did and it continued. this sounds more like a hardware problem which you listed.
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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    Is win8 fully installed and all updates applied?
    How many memory modules were installed with this latest error?
    How long did Memtest86+ run with only two modules installed in slots 1 & 3?
    Did you run tests 1 - 8 and repeat the test loop?

    I wouldn't install an operating system or copy files until the memory passed at least 5 full test loops.
    Approximate test time would be about 3 hours with 2 x 2GB.
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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Is win8 fully installed and all updates applied?
    How many memory modules were installed with this latest error?
    How long did Memtest86+ run with only two modules installed in slots 1 & 3?
    Did you run tests 1 - 8 and repeat the test loop?

    I wouldn't install an operating system or copy files until the memory passed at least 5 full test loops.
    Approximate test time would be about 3 hours with 2 x 2GB.
    op sys is fully installed with all updates.
    there are the 2 modules of ram in the mobo now. i didn't want to put all 4 in yet. you mentioned slots 1 & 3. hmm i have them next to each other. i may want to fix that first.
    Memtest 85 ran for about 15 minutes. i was getting errors so i stopped it at that point. i need to do more and accurate testing. i may be causing bad reads.

    One point to make, when looking at the back of the tower there's 4 sets of usb's. i have 2 dongles for the wireless mouse and keyboard. when the system was real unstable i had those 2 in the second from the top set of usb's. i now have them in the top set and the system is more stable. i have no idea why that would matter.
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    Using slots 1 & 2 or 3 & 4 means that you're running in single channel mode and that memory performance is reduced by 10% or more.
    Stability in single channel mode shouldn't be an issue.
    With your current instability, the risk of BSODs and file corruption is very high.
    You're wasting your time by copying files and folders with your unstable system.

    If there are stability issues with a different psu, you'll save a lot of time and effort if you get your system stable with a minimal hardware setup and and use a plain jane mouse and keyboard.

    When testing with Memtest86+, I press the space bar after the default test starts. This will prevent the errors list from scrolling after more than 10 errors occur.
    You still haven't posted the Ram, CAS, and Channel settings from the Memtest86+.
    I can't help you further until you provide more information.
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    Default Re: how to install win 8 pro oem on a new ssd

    i will post them for you when i run memtest 86 for sure
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