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    Well I've had this error about a dozen times, each requiring a reinstall... Got it again about 3 hours ago, and decided it's bout time I learned how to fix this crap... Anyway, stupid error was "C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system file missing or corrupt" or something similar... basically told me to put in my xp cd, reboot, boot from cd and hit 'r' at the first screen... But this seemed useless to me at first... Got to tinkering around and forgot about the original backups of all those files windows makes after the first successful boot (located in C:\WINDOWS\repair) .. Which was great, renamed my old system to system.old, and copied the backup system to the system32\config dir. Rebooted, and the machine actually booted... but ran into another problem. :( Thing kept telling me my license was invalid, which was weird. So, reactivating was fun to say the least ... I had to do an upgrade of sorts before I could reactivate, but finally... I'm here. Unfortunately, all that took out all my nice tweaks I had in the registry :(

    I think my machine is trying to tell me something (this one the 2.53 has had the most problems with this type of error (3 in 2 months)... But only happens when I up my FSB from 185mhz to 190+ :/) 'tis weird like that. Oh well, good info to have.
    <font size=1>Pentium 4 2.53GHz @ 3.515GHz (FSB: 185; VCore: 1.725)</font>
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    <font size=1>Enermax EG465P-VE 450watt PSU</font>
    <font size=1>CPU Temp (100%): 39 C; HDD Temp (100%): 31 C (100%); Chipset Temp (100%): 32 C</font>

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    Let me get this straight. You've got an extreme overclock (around 185+ FSB) and you basically corrupted your windows install from it, and you're now upset at windows? Hmmmm...: omg:

    Anyway, while I'm tempted to delete this thread, I think it serves as a good example of why overclocking is not something people should take for granted. Don't ramp your system up to extremely out-of-spec FSBs and expect everything to be groovy.

    As for getting all the WinXP tweaks back onto your system, I put every single XP performance tweak which works into my XP Guide 1 and all the remaining major visual/other tweaks in my XP Guide 2. How's that for handy?

    /EDIT - forgot to add that it's highly likely your RAM cannot take being at much higher than 370 Mhz so if you keep increasing the FSB, while the CPU might work, the RAM will corrupt your data and lead to the errors you had. Buy better RAM if you want to go higher and/or reduce the timings.

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    LMAO. 3times!!
    I learned that after you reinstall and get everything in good "tweaked" order, you create an image. I personally use PQDI or PowerQuest DriveImage.
    that way anything goes wrong, pop in the PQDI floppies and restore in under an hour!

    Hope you will too
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    PSU's sag after a certain amount time (usually performin' better than rated to begin with) and combined with extreme o/c's is likely to develop these types of errors which is why I don't go the full hog on an o/c and just settle for a good one so wind it back a bit and the problem should go away (also remember that ya gettin' into your warmer part of the year where you are which will also add a twist to the equation).

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    i wouldn't say that i know why this might have happened but i did find a solution to it.
    look at this M$ Article.

    well you might try the solution in the link and try getting that overclock to a nice stable state :cheers:
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    Quote Originally Posted by PersianImmortal
    Let me get this straight. You've got an extreme overclock (around 185+ FSB) and you basically corrupted your windows install from it, and you're now upset at windows? Hmmmm...: omg:

    Anyway, while I'm tempted to delete this thread, I think it serves as a good example of why overclocking is not something people should take for granted. Don't ramp your system up to extremely out-of-spec FSBs and expect everything to be groovy.

    As for getting all the WinXP tweaks back onto your system, I put every single XP performance tweak which works into my XP Guide 1 and all the remaining major visual/other tweaks in my XP Guide 2. How's that for handy?

    /EDIT - forgot to add that it's highly likely your RAM cannot take being at much higher than 370 Mhz so if you keep increasing the FSB, while the CPU might work, the RAM will corrupt your data and lead to the errors you had. Buy better RAM if you want to go higher and/or reduce the timings.
    My ram is stable up to 438mhz (2.5-3-3-7) (tested, stable) .. My machine is stable to 3.515 100%, at 3.53 - 3.667 is when it freaks out.

    But my whole thing here with the name of the thread was, in information I found online on this problem, i was told to delete the c:\windows\system32\config\system file (well rename it), then copy the C:\windows\repair\system file to the \windows\system32\config dir, reboot and that should fix the problem ... Well it didn't :) Had a problem with my license... That's what my whole issue was with. Some of the "fixes" for some problems with xp, DONT actually work properly... But as for my overclock, it is 100% stable.

    Delete the thread if you want too, I frankly don't give a ****.
    <font size=1>Pentium 4 2.53GHz @ 3.515GHz (FSB: 185; VCore: 1.725)</font>
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    <font size=1>Enermax EG465P-VE 450watt PSU</font>
    <font size=1>CPU Temp (100%): 39 C; HDD Temp (100%): 31 C (100%); Chipset Temp (100%): 32 C</font>

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    I believe what PI was trying to say was that while your system may appear to be perfectly stable at the overclocked speed, it is this very speed that is causing the problem that you have described. I think you'll find that kane2g has the right idea as far as imaging the drive once you get a solid installation in place with all the tweaks done perfectly... before you overclock it to extreme levels.
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    Have you tried using System Restore and System File Checker?

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    The problem isn't caused by Windows, I guess that's the bottom line. If you played around with the "license" (I assume this means something like copying the wpa file back into your system directory) then you're doing something which is not standard procedure for Windows, so if it's not your overclocking which corrupted the install, it was playing around with system files that did it.

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    Okay yanno what... fine... But just a bit more background info, I had a different motherboard the other two times I had this happen, a different processor, and different ram (only thing that has stayed constant is the case, psu, cdrom's and wireless internet card). I know once before I had this problem after playing with my memory timings, that's fine and dandy... This time however, no, I can say with 100% certanty, it had nothing to do with the overclocking... This machine also runs FreeBSD, which is a LOT more picky about unstable hardware than windows... which, oh ya, is also 100% stable.

    As far as my license and playing with system files, blow me. I don't play around with **** that is REQUIRED for the system to operate. All i'm saying is when I copied the repair\system file to system32\config\, rebooted it told me that it was invalid.

    One final note here too... when I install operating systems, or do any kinda upgrading of core componenets, the machine is never overclocked for reasons like this (but i'm not conceding it was overclocking that caused this problem).
    <font size=1>Pentium 4 2.53GHz @ 3.515GHz (FSB: 185; VCore: 1.725)</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/heatsink/v7plus.htm">ThermalTake Volcano 7+</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.albatron.com.tw/product/PX845PEV_800.asp">Albatron PX845PEV-800</a></font>
    <font size=1>512MB Samsung DDR333 @ DDR370</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.ati.com/products/pc/radeon9700pro/">Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?prodkey=ASC-29160">Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI Controller</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,321,00.html">Seagate ST373405LW 73GB U160 SCSI</a></font>
    <font size=1>Enermax EG465P-VE 450watt PSU</font>
    <font size=1>CPU Temp (100%): 39 C; HDD Temp (100%): 31 C (100%); Chipset Temp (100%): 32 C</font>

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